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Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 7/23/2010 1:57:55 AM
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Morrac30
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I have been looking for somewhere to look for advice about my situation for a while and I am hoping I can find something here.
First, a little history. I am a recent graduate of LeTourneau University and I have my B.S. in Computer Information Systems. I had a job offer a month before I graduated from a private company here in Texas, which I took. At the interview I put all my information out on the table with how much experience I had and what I had experience with. After a month and a half the owner of the company, who hired me by the way, asked me to meet him at a local restaurant and there told me that he was going to have to let me go. When I asked him what I had done, because I had no idea this was coming because he never told me I did anything wrong, he told me that I just didn't have the amount of experience he was looking for and that he should have explained this better when he interviewed me. (By the way, I got the job at the interview.) Anyway, I just had an interview with another company which went very well and had an unofficial job offer on the table. After a drug screen and background check it looked like everything was going to go OK but then I got word that they would not offer a formal job offer because one of my references (guess who).
This was a big blow because one, I didn't know what I did wrong at the previous job and two, I was really looking forward to this job and thought it was going to be a perfect fit with my major and job experience in college. Well, I continued looking and pray and promptly found a job in the same town. The job pays close to what I was making and seemed to be an OK job to work at until I can find something better. That was before I looked at the training manual. This job, which is at one of those rent-to-own places, is not a job that a Christian man should really be working at. Most of the instruction in the training manual instructs you to lie and deceive your customer into buying something that they may not want or need, which I guess is the purpose of this job, but I fear that it will turn my into a lying, cheating (not relationship wise), weasel of a person and I really don't want to be that kind of person, neither does my wife. I know that I need to work to support my family and I have been without work for a month now and I need something desperately. I am scheduled to start work on Monday but I have an interview with a temp agency tomorrow (well today I guess...it is early morning here) but I am afraid that this interview is just a get-to-know-you interview and not really one for a job.
What I am looking for is maybe some advice on what I should do with this kind of job and if I am stuck with this job, which I will not enjoy doing, how I can do it without going against my morals? Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Lost in Longview
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RE: Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 7/23/2010 1:27:57 PM
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reebz
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I have one follow up question before I can give my opinion - did you ask your previous employer if you could put him down as a reference?
As far as lying - don't do it.
Do the right thing and pray God gives you favor.
-reba.
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RE: Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 7/23/2010 6:56:39 PM
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Morrac30
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No I did not ask him if I could use him as a reference. I think what happened was there was a place where I could check if they could contact my previous employer and I thought it was for my job before my last one....unfortunately it wasn't.
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RE: Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 7/28/2010 4:35:00 PM
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dzehm007
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There really isn't anything you can do about the previous employer.
As far as new job, no one should require you to "lie" to keep the job. If this position is "sales" position, just remember that sales is 80% listening and 20% selling. Try to match what the customer needs with what you can offer them. Also remember to always offer "follow up" with them after the "sale", so you can build relationship with your customers and they won't think you are misleading them or don't care.
I would encourage you to continue actively seeking employment, even temporary while you are working in your new job. You need to provide for your family and retaining employment is important. Post your resume and set up profiles on as many employment websites as you can. Gas prices are getting any lower and your time is valuable too. I've received employment from most of my past positions through such sites as Careerbuilder, Monster, Yahoo Jobs, Craigslist (be careful with this one: "spam"), etc. Include all experience on your resume, even volunteer work and special training or certifications. If you don't have certifications, start working on them. Employers are seeking certifications in IT.
Hope this helps. 
I'll be praying for you!
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RE: Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 7/31/2010 11:09:12 AM
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FreeEagle
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Being fresh out of school, it may be best not to list the employer that is bad mouthing you, at all. Most employers only know what you tell them. You may be better off right now, being your own boss, and do short term work for several companies. Many companies may have the money to hire, but they won't because of the new health care bill issues. For an example, I've heard the new health care bill will cost the average small business owner 55% of their intake just in health care, you add that to unemployment insurance, and other taxes employers are required to pay. 70% of every dollar coming in, will go to the cost of having an employee, not to mention other overhead cost, and raw material. Quite frankly as a small business owner, I could not afford to hire anyone. I'd be better off contracting the work to other private contractors, or even out of the country.
You may want to have your wife or a friend call your old employer, pose as an HR person, and ask about why or why not he would not recommend you.
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I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go;
I will counsel you and watch over you. Do not be like the horse and the mule, which have no understanding but must be controlled by bit and bridle or they will not come to you.
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RE: Need advice (and prayer) -- job issues - 8/3/2010 3:43:40 AM
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HannahElizabeth
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Hello,
Unless I am misreading, your employer let you go after another employer called asking for a reference, after you accidentally checked that box. It sounds like he was upset that you were looking for work so soon after he took a risk and hired you on the spot. Perhaps he felt betrayed, then he was no longer interested in investing time in training or building a relationship with you. I am not saying that was the mature, right reaction. The best thing would have been to approach you and ask why you were dissatisfied.
At any rate, I agree with the others: do your job your way, with integrity, until you find something else. And also perhaps consider that you may be reading in something more negative in the manual than is actually there. I was terminated before, and it makes me ultra-sensitive in subsequent work situations. I'm ready to cut and run pretty quickly when things go awry. Getting fired creates anxiety and a sense of powerlessness -- when you are quick to quit, it feels like you're getting some of that power back.
What do you think? Am I on the right track here?
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